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distilledwill · Aug 04, 2008, 09:50 AM // 09:50

Just a quick'un:

If I equip my Olias with a spear with a poisonous spearhead will it affect the duration of the poisoning from the triggering of Death Nova when his minions explode?

Edit: Oh, oh! also, how about a Barbed Spearhead and Jagged Minions? I guess thats a little less likely.

I Will Heal You Ally · Aug 04, 2008, 10:05 AM // 10:05

Um spearhead only affects spear attacks... it will work with apply poison cuz that poison comes from your spears (melee attacks), so on death nova it won't work

distilledwill · Aug 04, 2008, 10:06 AM // 10:06

Sorry, but thats not true:

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Originally Posted by GuildWiki

A Poisonous weapon will lengthen the duration of poison caused by you, not just with attack skills. This includes skill combinations like Chilblains and Plague Sending, which will increase the duration of the poison by 33% twice (for a total of 76% increase).

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Poisonous

Im asking whether it transfers to a sort of "secondary" skill like death nova, which is cast by you but the poison only triggers by some outside influence.

KoKoS · Aug 04, 2008, 10:11 AM // 10:11

Don't know,, i never tried that, but i guess it'll work with death nova
i also think that barbed won't work coz it's not olias attacking; it's the jagged horror

farmerfez · Aug 04, 2008, 11:23 AM // 11:23

It might I call a test on teh balthazar island xD

The Red Messenger · Aug 04, 2008, 11:34 AM // 11:34

the poison and bleeding might be able to be lengthened, but think about it...

do enemies ever last long enough for the poison/bleeding to run out? maybe once or twice in HM on jotuns or bosses but thats about it. i prefer the extra buffs a staff can provide

TheodenKing · Aug 04, 2008, 01:21 PM // 13:21

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Originally Posted by The Red Messenger

do enemies ever last long enough for the poison/bleeding to run out?

A wise observation for PvE.

distilledwill · Aug 04, 2008, 01:27 PM // 13:27

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Originally Posted by The Red Messenger

the poison and bleeding might be able to be lengthened, but think about it...

do enemies ever last long enough for the poison/bleeding to run out? maybe once or twice in HM on jotuns or bosses but thats about it. i prefer the extra buffs a staff can provide

Theres few reasons I want to use a spear on my olias.

1) I can then give him both a death offhand and a spear with a +20% enchant spear.
2) My build includes barbs so I figure he might aswell trigger that aswell.
3) It looks cooler than a staff.

The spearhead isnt hugely important, but I figure +33% poison duration is better than nothing at all.

Luminarus · Aug 04, 2008, 01:53 PM // 13:53

I think it does because technically you are doing the damage (you see the numbers) same reason as i think that bleeding from minion is from you. On the other hand, I know that if you put ebon battle standard of honor on the MM there is no bonus for the minions, only if they are actually in it. I suppose this could be an interesting thing to test.

uzumaki · Aug 04, 2008, 01:54 PM // 13:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by distilledwill

Just a quick'un:

If I equip my Olias with a spear with a poisonous spearhead will it affect the duration of the poisoning from the triggering of Death Nova when his minions explode?

Edit: Oh, oh! also, how about a Barbed Spearhead and Jagged Minions? I guess thats a little less likely.

Im guessing it does. It works on the spell return with a 33% cripple mod on a melee weapon.

Ben-A-BoO · Aug 04, 2008, 03:09 PM // 15:09

Interesting question...

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Originally Posted by Luminarus

I think it does because technically you are doing the damage (you see the numbers) same reason as i think that bleeding from minion is from you.

I thought the same when I was toying around with pet builds ...

However even if you see the numbers from your pet, your weapon doesn't affect the pet attacks. A poisonous mod does not lengthen the duration of [[Poisonous Bite].

So my guess is for now: No effect; as the minion triggers it bye dieing and not you.

Second question (of pure theoretical nature):
If a ally with Death Nova on dies while having a poisonous mod equipped (obviously not a minion) would that lengthen the poison?

Aug 04, 2008, 09:50 AM // 09:50	#1
distilledwill Forge Runner Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Blighty Guild: The Legion of the Blue Blade Profession: R/Mo	Spearhead and Deathnova Just a quick'un: If I equip my Olias with a spear with a poisonous spearhead will it affect the duration of the poisoning from the triggering of Death Nova when his minions explode? Edit: Oh, oh! also, how about a Barbed Spearhead and Jagged Minions? I guess thats a little less likely. Last edited by distilledwill; Aug 04, 2008 at 09:53 AM // 09:53..

Aug 04, 2008, 10:05 AM // 10:05	#2
I Will Heal You Ally Krytan Explorer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In my HoM Guild: Canthan Refugees [TOGO] Profession: E/Rt	Um spearhead only affects spear attacks... it will work with apply poison cuz that poison comes from your spears (melee attacks), so on death nova it won't work

Aug 04, 2008, 10:11 AM // 10:11	#4
KoKoS Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: aBove Empress Amarox xP Guild: KDT Profession: Mo/E	Don't know,, i never tried that, but i guess it'll work with death nova i also think that barbed won't work coz it's not olias attacking; it's the jagged horror

Aug 04, 2008, 11:23 AM // 11:23	#5
farmerfez Krytan Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: You should know Profession: W/	It might I call a test on teh balthazar island xD

Aug 04, 2008, 11:34 AM // 11:34	#6
The Red Messenger Krytan Explorer Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: America	the poison and bleeding might be able to be lengthened, but think about it... do enemies ever last long enough for the poison/bleeding to run out? maybe once or twice in HM on jotuns or bosses but thats about it. i prefer the extra buffs a staff can provide

Aug 04, 2008, 01:53 PM // 13:53	#9
Luminarus Furnace Stoker Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Guild: Haze of Light [pure] Profession: R/	I think it does because technically you are doing the damage (you see the numbers) same reason as i think that bleeding from minion is from you. On the other hand, I know that if you put ebon battle standard of honor on the MM there is no bonus for the minions, only if they are actually in it. I suppose this could be an interesting thing to test.